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What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

Sonia.Johal — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 18:22:25 GMT

Hello Team OCC, Still prepping my boat please would you share your answers to my two part question… “A/ What is the best wind-vane for solo crossings, preferably suitable for a Hanse385 sailing sloop with a drop-down transom? B/ It would be an absolute bonus if my wind-vane could also have an element of hydro-generation?”

RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

Sonia.Johal — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 18:22:25 GMT

Thanks Simon, It was kind of you to offer…. I’d just heard that shipping by three month sea was affordable for heavy items…. Guess I just didn’t realise how heavy these windvanes are! Best of luck with finding your right buyer. Fair winds, Sonia SY Salacia

RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

simoncurrin — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 17:37:22 GMT

Sonia,
My Windpilot is the servo-pendulum one and so doesn’t function as an emergency rudder. I think the shipping cost might be prohibitive. I sold it to a guy in Australia but he pulled out when he discovered the cost of shipping greatly exceeded the value of the item.

Simon

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[b]Sonia Johal - 29 Nov 2022[/b]
Wow Simon,

I’m on the Isle of Wight and super keen, plus I. have the time for three month shipping by sea…

May we discuss further offline? I believe there will be someone qualified here to help me with fitting.

A significant criteria is that it will work fitted off centre, to accommodate my Hanse385 transom design.

Thank you so much for your kind offer 🫡

Fair winds,,

Sonia
SY Salacia
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RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

Sonia.Johal — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 15:08:30 GMT

NB2 Another Windvane consideration is how it will complement my existing electronic B&G Triton 2 auto-pilot, which is reputed to be overtaking the former electronic auto-pilot market leader NKE, as stated by globalsolochallenge.com website. Fab interesting stance, some of these solo circumnavigation racers take is that they don’t even consider manual Windvanes as a necessity 🤔 However, personally I feel safer with a manual backup, already knowing a couple of boats who have suffered lightning strikes or suffered complete electronic failure. What are your views on preventing electronic failures versus ensuring a manual steering option?

RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

Sonia.Johal — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:24:50 GMT

NB Just to clarify the considerations for my Windvane choice include my limited budget and include my safety need for an emergency rudder. Plus, I am restricted by Salacia’s Hanse385 lowering platform transom design, requiring an off-centre installation. So, I consider all off-centre wind-vane options, as I may decide to use a “soft emergency rudder” option; For example, I have been kindly offered the opportunity of purchasing a pre-sailed Windpilot and investigate Windpilot’s SOS rudder option. However, I have attached a ‘Sail magazine” cutting with a link to their article about, “Know how to rig an emergency rudder”… https://www.sailmagazine.com/diy/know-how-rigging-emergency-rudders [img=../Uploads/Images/82c0ef8b-d9ae-4d5b-be7c-d10.jpeg]../Uploads/Images/c7098e51-feb7-4c9b-9ae6-a29.jpeg[/img]

RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

Sonia.Johal — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 14:07:24 GMT

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[b]Sonia Johal - 21 Oct 2022[/b]
Hello Team OCC,Still prepping my boat please would you share your answers to my two part question…“A/ What is the best wind-vane for solo crossings, preferably suitable for a Hanse385 sailing sloop with a drop-down transom?B/ It would be an absolute bonus if my wind-vane could also have an element of hydro-generation?”
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RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

Sonia.Johal — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 12:43:52 GMT

Wow Simon, I’m on the Isle of Wight and super keen, plus I. have the time for three month shipping by sea… May we discuss further offline? I believe there will be someone qualified here to help me with fitting. A significant criteria is that it will work fitted off centre, to accommodate my Hanse385 transom design. Thank you so much for your kind offer 🫡 Fair winds,, Sonia SY Salacia

RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

Sonia.Johal — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 12:34:59 GMT

Thanks Dick, Will do…although unfortunately everything is taking longer to research than anticipated… I will of course share my findings, but only once I’m certain of my own findings. Please do bear with me, as I expect my wind vane choice to be the toughest by far…. Grateful for all your input and feedback, Fair winds, Sonia SY Salacia

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Roberto.Ritossa — Tue, 29 Nov 2022 00:41:07 GMT

Hydrovane, Monitor, Windpilot (not exhaustive list)... very difficult to get it wrong with any of those, hardly ever heard anyone complain about their wind steering system.
Monitor US based, not sure it has such an advantage to others to pay the extra to get it shipped/imported to Europe?
Hydrovane for UK, Windpilot for EU maybe?
Depending on the boat you have there may be more preferable options. To me, boat with closed stern and wire steering, the Windpilot Pacific was optimum: install it in ten minutes, remove it in ten minutes (two bolts). We have a stern arch to lift the dinghy while coastal cruising so a permanent structure in the middle of the transom was no/no.
Our version of WP gives no provision for fitting and emergency rudder, others have that. Try and determine what you exactly need :)

RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

simoncurrin — Sun, 23 Oct 2022 19:16:40 GMT

Sonia
Not sure where you are based but we have a Windpilot on board in Annapolis which we no longer need. It was great on our old 38’ boat but doesn’t dork on our current (bigger) boat.
Simon

RE: What is the best wind vane for solo crossings?

Sonia.Johal — Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:28:08 GMT

Thanks Dick. Great to hear from you and I will most certainly share my findings. I appreciate your suggestions and will review them all before getting back to you. I guess, once I have collected my options, I will see if I can arrange for members to comment on each one, or perhaps even vote ! Currently, the one advertised in Flying Fish is the “Hydrovane” which I believe may have a watt&sea hydrogeneration option, but I await their input before providing any feedback. I will obviously await my mentor’s feedback too! Wishing you fair winds, Sonia SY Salacia

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Sonia.Johal — Sat, 22 Oct 2022 11:22:15 GMT

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[b]Dick - 21 Oct 2022[/b]
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[b]Sonia.Johal - 21 Oct 2022[/b]
Hello Team OCC,Still prepping my boat please would you share your answers to my two part question…“A/ What is the best wind-vane for solo crossings, preferably suitable for a Hanse385 sailing sloop with a drop-down transom?B/ It would be an absolute bonus if my wind-vane could also have an element of hydro-generation?”
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Hi Sonia,
I would suspect the Monitor has more miles steering a boat (solo or crewed) than any of the others (except perhaps Aries in the old days). That said, some the newer ones (Cape Horn and the like) have strong advocates and lots of at-sea miles.
I have been out of that loop for a while, so please share what your researches reveal.
Never heard of the latter question, but I would shy away from burdoning a mission critical piece of kit (like wind vane steering) with extranious challenges.
My best, Dick Stevenson, s/v Alchemy
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Dick — Fri, 21 Oct 2022 22:34:32 GMT

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[b]Sonia.Johal - 21 Oct 2022[/b]
Hello Team OCC,Still prepping my boat please would you share your answers to my two part question…“A/ What is the best wind-vane for solo crossings, preferably suitable for a Hanse385 sailing sloop with a drop-down transom?B/ It would be an absolute bonus if my wind-vane could also have an element of hydro-generation?”
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Hi Sonia,
I would suspect the Monitor has more miles steering a boat (solo or crewed) than any of the others (except perhaps Aries in the old days). That said, some the newer ones (Cape Horn and the like) have strong advocates and lots of at-sea miles.
I have been out of that loop for a while, so please share what your researches reveal.
Never heard of the latter question, but I would shy away from burdoning a mission critical piece of kit (like wind vane steering) with extranious challenges.
My best, Dick Stevenson, s/v Alchemy