COVID update from Croatia (Feb 2021)


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I received this from a family entering Croatia.

We just sailed from lefkas Greece to Croatia. Greece remains in total lockdown since Nov 7th and we had been tied to the dock for three months. The rules actually prohibit permission to LEAVE Greece unless you are 1) bound for a shipyard to get work done or 2) leaving for your home port. The port police will stamp your crew list and transit log giving permission to depart for only one of these reasons, and they advised there was a 5000 euro fine if sailing Greek waters without permission.

However, I explained that we needed to leave the shengen due to our nationality allowing 90 days in of 180. This involved a conversation with many staff, eventually working its way up to the second in command of the port police. He ultimately gave me permission to depart Greece with no special papers required. I was told that a quote from a shipyard in Croatia would have worked too. They did not seem to think i could have been reasonably leaving for my home port in Canada, but i expect that would work too.

As an aside, the customs office interprets living on your boat during lockdown as "using" your boat, in terms of a non Greek boat in Greek waters. As such they say etepai (cruising tax) must be paid in full as per normal in spite of lock down. Some boats took their original ship registration papers to the port police, left them their, got a confirmation piece of paper, and took this along with their transit log to the customs office and thus paused their time in Greece and did NOT have to pay etepai. It seems their is some grey area around the interpretation of "immobility" or "out of use" status. The key seems to be just not mentioning whether you will continue to live on the boat while it is tied up and port police have your registration document. This strategy of taking boat papers to the port police and remaining in port has been used by many others PRE COVID as a way to remain in Greece during winter months without their transit log clock ticking and without paying cruising tax. We got stuck paying in full.

Also note, in terms on NON VAT PAID boats with NON EU skippers, Greek customs issue a temporary importation TI transit log for 18 months. This is done with no consideration of how long the boat has already been in EU waters. Thus you can arrive Greece having been in the EU for 17 months already, and be granted an 18 month temporary importation transit log (this i have witnessed) . However, they only allow the registering skipper to USE the boat for six months, then they must leave Greece for SIX MONTHS, then they can return and use it for a last six months before the boat must leave. This was confirmed by two different customs offices as Greek interpretation of temporary importation law and Greek tax law. However, I was advised by local cruisers that getting around this seems to be quite easy. They say you close your transit log prior to the six months, sail out of the country, and sail back in again opening a new transit log. This has apparently been done by leaving as briefly as one day and returning to the exact same customs office and officials.

Here are Croatia latest rules updated Jan 13th

https://mup.gov.hr/uzg-covid/english/286212

The rules are concise and brief.

We chose Croatia because it is in the EU, but not Shengen. Thus we remain inside the EU and are not subject to being treated as arrivals from "third countries" with the consequent increased restrictions. But also we choose Croatia because these latest rules allow you to enter as per pre covid terms, regardless of citizenship, IF you arrive directly from an area of the EU currently listed as green on the EU covid map. There are not many right now, but the islands of Greece are green.

We are now free to cruise Croatia, restaurants are closed, but otherwise few restrictions other than the standard social distancing routine. It is still covid times, and consisted "Winter" here so we have the place entirely to ourselves. Conditions are much like a high latitude summer in our terms and vey pleasant for cruising.

My arrival in Croatia was interesting. See the conversation I have quoted below. Interestingly, the port police did not mention that you can avoid a test all together if you wish, by just quarantining for 10 days. The price for the covid pcr test in dubrovnik is currently 200 euros per person I was advised later. Ouch. They did give me a phone number, and advised the testing staff would come right to the clearance dock. If it had been necessary, they do make it convenient. Very convenient.

I advised the port police officers we had friends coming 24 hours behind us from the same place. But interestingly, they were given the same instructions to get tested until they explained my recent experience and mentioned our boat name. After which they were granted free entry.

Conversation with police upon arrival in Dubrovnik:

Me: hello
Police: hello, where did you come from?
Me: lefkada, Greece
Police: do you have pcr covid test?
Me: no
Police: you must have one, your expense, and isolate until results back
Me: but the Croatia government website says no test or isolation coming from green EU zone, and lefkad Greece is green?
Police: we don't do red green here, you must have test.
Me: (showing printout) but it says here on the internet what i said.
Police: that is not official Croatia site
Me: but it says here at the top, Government of Croatia.
Police: we go by police information, not this.
Me (showing a different printout) but this is from the official Croatia police website saying the same thing i said
Police: that is out of date
Me: but it says here at the top updated yesterday?
Police: that doesn't apply to maritime border
Me: really?
Police: yes. Call this number to arrange covid test now. Here is the other number for covid info (159).
Me: my phone is on my boat. Return to boat and call covid info number (159). Explain my situation. Told to wait.
Police come to my boat...
Me: hello again
Police: you are free to enter, no testing, no isolation
Me: great
Police: yes, we just heard from headquarters it was updated just now, not when you said before, just today.
Me: ok, thank you.

I hope this info can help others,



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